"The dream may be elusive

but it is attainable"

What is the elusive dream? The Elusive Dream is a conversation between sociologist, Dr. Korie Little Edwards and clergy, Pastor Rich Johnson about the intersection of race and religion. Together, we seek to uncover the hidden forces in our society that deepen racial injustices.

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The Hosts

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Dr. Korie Little Edwards

Sociologist, Author
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Rich Johnson

Pastor

Recent Episodes

Let the Women Lead

Let the Women Lead

In this bonus episode, hear the full interview with Pashia Thomas.
The Gift of Song and Feminine Energy

The Gift of Song and Feminine Energy

In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich lift up a woman’s voice in the conversation about mobilizing the black…
The Black Leader as Mediator

The Black Leader as Mediator

In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich discuss the complexities of the mediator role of black church leaders. It’s…

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Methodist Theological School in Ohio
June 27, 2022
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The Elusive Dream Leaders Retreat
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Sanctuary Columbus Church
June 25, 2022
1:30 pm
The Elusive Dream Workshop